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Old May 13, 2006, 04:47 PM // 16:47   #1
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Angry Extreme unexplained FPS drop

This has been bugging me for a while. I can't really offer any details about what happens since, frankly, I have no idea what happens. Basically every now and then, I get a severe drop in FPS (like 1-2 frames every second) for no real reason. Restarting the game seems to fix the problem. Could this be due to my PC overheating ? Does anyone else get the same problem ?

I've only started getting this problem since the FPE, the first time it popped up was during an Alliance Battle. Its putting a serious damper on my play, I can't GvG, do HA, anything so if anyone can offer any advice I'd be very grateful.

Just don't tell me to get a new PC
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Old May 13, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56   #2
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List your computer specifications.
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Old May 13, 2006, 04:58 PM // 16:58   #3
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you could be getting lag from this which is not Anets/your fault

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3030662
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Old May 13, 2006, 05:04 PM // 17:04   #4
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List your computer specifications.
Alright, but I didn't think that would be necessary since the game ran perfectly for months before.

-2.0 GHz Intel Pentium 4
-512 MB DDR DRAM
-nVidia GeForce 4 Ti4200

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you could be getting lag from this which is not Anets/your fault
Hope thats not it, because it means I cant do anything about it
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Old May 13, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30   #5
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Welol, the DX8 card wont help seeing as GW now uses a DX9 engine, and the 500megs of ram wont help. Do a defrag, install the latest drivers, setup your vmem properly and pray to the fps gods.
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Old May 13, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40   #6
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Can't you also force GW to run in DX8? If thats possible it might be worth a try.
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Old May 13, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42   #7
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I'll try that and see what happens. I'm beginning to suspect it may be overheating though, as my fan is starting to make weird noises.
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Old May 13, 2006, 07:07 PM // 19:07   #8
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The GPU or CPU? Download one of the temperature monitoring softwares available and check if your wondering.... Speed Fan, Smart Guardian, etc....
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Old May 14, 2006, 11:40 AM // 11:40   #9
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I had the same problem with my old video card (GeForce FX 5900XT) and the ForceWare 78.01 drivers.
- Forcing DX8 (with the -dx8 option) fixed the problem, but this will also remove some graphical effects.
- Updating the drivers to 84.21 also fixed the problem, but caused another glitch (blinking lighting of some distant objects). I don't know if this would happen on a GeForce 4 as well.

This annoyed me enough to get a GeForce 7800GS instead, which is working great so far.
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Old May 14, 2006, 12:32 PM // 12:32   #10
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nVidia GeForce 4 Ti4200 ~ What'd you expect? :|

Right-Click your Gw.exe, and change the target from something like:

"C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe"

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"C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -dx8 -heapsize 384000 -map

Also, close all un-needed processes, I mean, I get to 16 Processes if I close all the crap, something like below:

I also go into 'msconfig' from Run and I already have everytime I startup my PC, it doesn't startup all the un-needed services that you can't specifically end in your Task Manager, and also stop un-needed programs starting up upon boot of your Computer.


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Old May 14, 2006, 02:41 PM // 14:41   #11
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Don't bash hardware.

Hmm, starting with FPE, the renderer was moved to the DX9 API, and as such a DX9 card would seriously benefit you. In addition, you mentioned strange fan noises, I would say it is time to replace that card. The Ti4200 isn't getting any younger and seriously lacks in horsepower for today's games.
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Old May 14, 2006, 03:49 PM // 15:49   #12
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Quote:
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nVidia GeForce 4 Ti4200 ~ What'd you expect? :|

Right-Click your Gw.exe, and change the target from something like:

"C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe"

to

"C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -dx8 -heapsize 384000 -map

Also, close all un-needed processes, I mean, I get to 16 Processes if I close all the crap, something like below:

I also go into 'msconfig' from Run and I already have everytime I startup my PC, it doesn't startup all the un-needed services that you can't specifically end in your Task Manager, and also stop un-needed programs starting up upon boot of your Computer.

You are running 0 ammount of firewall.


I would also say that its your video-card thats doing this. I would recommend an ATI 9550 256mb- it can even run BF2 and F.E.A.R. at a steady 20fps (lowest settings of course). Also, check out the whopping price;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814123001

For that you can even afford a 512 memory upgrade; G.SKILL? I think so

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Old May 14, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22   #13
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You are running 0 ammount of firewall.


I would also say that its your video-card thats doing this. I would recommend an ATI 9550 256mb- it can even run BF2 and F.E.A.R. at a steady 20fps (lowest settings of course). Also, check out the whopping price;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814123001

For that you can even afford a 512 memory upgrade; G.SKILL? I think so
Prolly has a Hardware Firewall built into his router. I know i do. Hardware > Software
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Old May 14, 2006, 04:28 PM // 16:28   #14
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Prolly has a Hardware Firewall built into his router. I know i do. Hardware > Software
ahhh... touché.
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Prolly has a Hardware Firewall built into his router. I know i do. Hardware > Software
That I do.
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Old May 16, 2006, 09:29 AM // 09:29   #16
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almost certainly heat related. especially if you dont dust out the case and fans regular

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Old May 16, 2006, 09:46 AM // 09:46   #17
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Yeah, I know that stuff isn't getting any younger, I've been putting off replacing anything for a while since it ran so well. Its going to get replaced soon, but I was browsing GWonline and found an interesting and similar post.

So I'm going to try the game with the -dx8 parameter, and the suggestion that fixed the guy's problem in the linked thread. If that doesn't work, I'll lighten my pocket a bit
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Old May 20, 2006, 09:13 PM // 21:13   #18
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I've got pretty much same problem, it occurs usually after minimizing/after loading of new area. FPS drops to 1-3 and nothing helps except restarting Guild Wars.

My system:

2x512 Mb Kingston Valueram (PC-3200, Dual channel)
2,8 Ghz Pentium IV Prescott
GeForce 6600 GT AGP 128 Mb
Abit IC-7 MAX3

I've got latest BIOS for GPU and motherboard. I've also got latest drivers for everything. My computer is also freshly formatted and defragged.
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Old May 20, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57   #19
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yea with the last few updates since 1-2 months ago i notice a fps drop too. places that used to be perfect are now glitching and since one certain update i get graphic errors at the mursaat towers.

i got similiar specs, 2ghz amd, 512 mb ram, ati 9600 pro.
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